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Bert
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Mails van Formula1 komen in de spam map.

Dat Ziggo geen Formule 1 meer uitzend dat is een keuze.

Maar om nu de mails van de officiële Formule 1 website in de spam map te deponeren, lijkt me niet de bedoeling.

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Richard G.
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Lijkt mij ook niet de bedoeling. Misschien het spamfilter te string ingesteld voor links of zo?
Staat er niets in de headers als enige vorm van reden?

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De mails lijken al eerder als spam gezien te worden gezien de pass spf dkim dmarc.

 

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De pass SPF DKIM DMARC betekent dat die een pass hebben dus goedgekeurd zijn zoals ik het zie.

 

Maar ze versturen dus mail via een andere newsletter provider en daar gaat het al mis.

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Dit ip staat op de SORBS spamlijst.

 

De SPF is goed en geeft een pass.

DKIM geeft ook een pass.

Dan het DMARC record dat komt met p=reject sp=reject dis=pass.

Dit betekent:

p=reject -> DMARC policy reject als spf en dkim niet matchen.

sp=reject -> idem voor subdomains

dit zijn dus de instellingen voor DMARC. De laatste is de belangrijkste:

dis=pass -> Officieel "disposition" maar ik noem het beslissing. Wat er uiteindelijk gedaan gedaan/besloten wordt. Veelal is dat "none" of "pass". None wordt er niets mee gedaan, komt het in de inbox. Als het "pass" is zoals nu, wordt het als gevalideerd gezien en zijn dus SPF, DKIM en DMARC correct.

 

Ik ben dus bang dat het hier aan de SORBS lijst ligt waar dat ip van formula1 in staat momenteel.

Blijkbaar maakt Ziggo daar nog gebruik van. Geen idee of ze formula1 kunnen of willen whitelisten of zoiets.

 

Beste is denk ik contact opnemen met Formula1 en/of abuse van Ziggo om dit op te lossen.

 

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Het lijkt inmiddels weer opgelost, deze mail kwam zojuist in de inbox.

 

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Yep, wordt nu via een ander ip verstuurd: 192.64.236.41

Die mail bedrijven hebben veelal meerdere ip adressen. Ik weet niet of ze dit expres gewijzigd hebben naar aanleiding van klachten of dat de MTA's gewoon random gebruikt worden net als die van Ziggo.

Vreemd, dit nieuwe ip zit ook in de SORBS lijst, dan maakt Ziggo daar geen gebruik van en was 't vermoedelijk toch andere reden.

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